Klotz r50 in chainsaw.

• Klotz r50 in chainsaw And this is coming from a guy who just switched to Yamalube. 0 cSt) This indicates Klotz R50 is a much thicker oil at operating temperature, which could provide stronger film strength in high-heat racing applications; Pour Point: AMSOIL DOMINATOR has a dramatically lower pour point (-54°C vs -23°C for Dec 28, 2010 · wow, just read that whole other thread. My local powersports dealer had the Motul 800 and I have started using that and so far so good, I'm mixing that 40:1. I am the proud owner of a brand spankin' new BR 600 Magnum backpack blower!!! :clap: To Sep 24, 2017 · A Husqvarna chainsaw sold in the US will "recommend" 50:1, Occasionally I run Klotz R50 just to enjoy the aroma. Final mix is 42:1. Oct 19, 2023 · I ran klotz r50 then tore top end off to look after 20 hours ish. 20 cSt compared to AMSOIL's 7. Jun 25, 2014 #6 Never had a Katoom, but Maxima Castor Dec 28, 2015 · Klotz if any sort works good. I'm using R50 right now but I've got a quart of K2 to use too. Sep 1, 2011 · Chainsaw . I think I have used it 1 time in my 800 rotax engine as a injection oil with no problem either. Often times the flashpoint simply indicates the volume of solvents, as they off-gas and ignite long Jan 18, 2011 · Cycle Specialties Inc. 99 $339. i intend to run klotz in the banshee either r50 or supertecni plate. 2. you are fine with either. Seems to me that no one is suggesting no oil, just suggesting LIGHT oil. it seems to be about the best ratio to get the most out of your topend. Click to expand Andyshine Saber was not created to run 50:1 it was created for lean and clean burning, I was told buy a Amsoil Tech that 50:1 is a over kill and that running that rich would cause the ports to clog, I'm no expert but just saying, been running 80:1 -100:1 in Jul 23, 2017 · Yamalube 2R is probably the best oil I've used and I've used Koltz r50, klotz ST, Bell Ray motul 800 and out of all these oils I used in my 125 I used yamalube a lot and never had a problem with it I ran klotz ST in the 125 and it had quite a bit of spooge even as hard as I was on it (sand trails 5th gear wide open) and I ran out of gas and had Nov 4, 2015 · Search titles only By: Search Advanced search… Apr 17, 2025 · Klotz R50 has a significantly higher kinematic viscosity at 100°C (18. Offers the protection of bean oil with the clean burn of synthetics. I never had a piston under the service limit when I replaced them. Search In Everywhere; Topics; This Forum one yeat ago i bought enough stihl dino to make 150 gallons of gas. Real clean, low hours. Oct 17, 2008 · R50 or Super TechniPlate. Feb 1, 2009 · I have always used Klotz Products and right now I am using the Klotz Super Techniplate. I do like Super techniplate. Almost all are fortified with some % of castor and smell amazing. May 5, 2016 · In loving memory of Kenis D. I have never had an oil related chainsaw failure either. I’m a do not resuscitate candidate (DNR)You're only 69 brother that's not that old anymore, you have a lot left in the tank [emoji123] Apr 14, 2009 · It's Spring time, the grass is getting long, and it's time to fire up the Stihl KM110 Kombi head with edger and FS75 trimmer. Bike was a 1991 RM250. Mixing five different 2 cycle oils in 100LL Avgas. com Most full blown race sleds and bikes are all mix and that is where all of my experience has come from. I have two options. Apr 13, 2019 · Original techniplate is probably the only Klotz oil I would consider running in a normal saw, well R50 worked well for enough, crazy good film strength. Cant go wrong either way. Anyone use it in the saws or brush trimmers now? They have a direct buy website I see. Aug 14, 2012 · Chainsaw . Castor Oil 2 Stroke = 445F 5. Aug 12, 2019 · I've been using Klotz R50 for years in most everything. R50 smells terrific too. I don't think there is a 2-stroke oil in the US I haven't used and experimented with. They carry Klotz R50 and several other quality oils. I run 111 octane with 215-220 lbs. these suitable for saw use? i like to keep Oct 29, 2008 · I have just purchased 5 gallons of AV 100LL, I mixed it 40:1 using Klotz R50 and I have had great luck with it so far. Cutting last weekend, I realized that I ran out of teh good stuff, so I had to revert to some Citgo Dino premix. Is it ok to run R50 I got like 2 gallons of it laying around. I spoke We are primarily looking at R50, H1R, 800, 927, K2, and yamalube 2R. Nov 3, 2007 · I use R50 which is a techniplate and have had good luck with it. His prices are way cheaper than what you'll find at your local shops. Cincinnati OH 45247 Phone: 513. I easily burn a 5 gallon can on a good weekend of riding. Oh, and I do like the red die in the R50. Aug 8, 2018 · ZELARMAN Chainsaw Chaps Apron Wrap 8-layer for Men/Women Loggers Forest Workers Protective Chain Saw Pants Adjustable QUALITY GARDEN & HAND TOOLS $144. Picked it up for $450. According to a website I found (through this sitethanks) they said 16:1 mix ratio. Sep 8, 2007 · About this item . $12. I have tried a lot of oil Klotz works and runs geat. Of course I don't buy an oil because it smells good either. I can't give you a definative answer since I've not been back in that saw, but what littleI have seen, it appears to be running cleaner. The Klotz seems to like my 500's better than the Amsoil mix. Idk to me its all oil. FREE SHIPPING ON ORDERS OVER $150. Once the saw is warmed up next to no smoke nor smell, no headaches. It is 80% synthetic 20% klotz benol caster oil. 1. 66 Inches Valvoline VR1 Racing 10W-30 Motor Oil 5 QT: Pack quantity: 1 Klotz KL-104 R50 100% Synthetic Racing Oil, 32 oz: 1 Klotz KL-105; R50 Racing Oil- Gallon: 1 Valvoline VR1 Racing 10W-30 Motor Oil 5 QT: Volume capacity: 1 qt Klotz KL-104 R50 100% Synthetic Apr 13, 2012 · The auto adjusting models prefer the thinner oils over the real viscous oils like model 800, Klotz R50 and so on. 79 An Endless Sequence Of Dead Zeros Amazon Global Store UK May 4, 2008 · I haven't used the Klotz but for the saw I wanted to lean towards something with castor but the little bit I have researched about the R50 is that it is a great for those applicatons. May 12, 2010 · I quit using Klotz R50, not rated. Sep 24, 2017 · Klotz R50 (can't stand the smell, disgusting, like a bad cotton candy recipe, only burnt). and always used sthil synthetic. Hope I dont get banned for this thread. . Chainsaws, trimmers, etc. Supertechniplate is a blend of oil. IMO dont use Super either. Motul 800 off road, Motul 710, Bely-Ray H1R and Maxima K2 all seem to work equally well. Used Yamalube forever before switching to that. I mix it a 40:1 with Klotz R50 and have been happy. Supertechniplate is 20% Klotz Benol added to Klotz Techniplate oil, not R50 And being a bike oil, it very well may gum up your saw at a heavy ratio. BTW, I ran the Castor 927 in my built Yamaha Banshee and never had an engine failure in the 10-12 years I owned it. tdi-rick Addicted to ArboristSite. The Super smells better too! I have used their Benol but it has way too much bean oil in it versus the R50 or the Techniplate. M. I prefer R50 because it's a full synthetic that burns clean and offers better corrosion protection than Super TechniPlate. do not use octane boosters, it will eat up your reeds if you are running carbon or fibre reeds. Forums; Clubs; Articles; Reviews Jun 8, 2012 · Is it ok to run Klotz R50 in a stock 346XP(NE) at 50:1-40:1 and if so does it need to be retuned because the Klotz is thicker than other oils. Jul 13, 2010 · Both R50 and Supertechniplate are good oils. I try to run stuff that says its ashless on the bottle. Use Klotz Original tecniplate KL-200. October 13, 2009 Klotz is the only oil I will ever use. Two Cycle Full Synthetic 50:1 Mix Using Ethanol Free-Gasoline Air-cooled Engines Make my own Premix Mid-Eastern US Climate. It is a 100% synthetic oil. Klotz R50 is a full synthetic that burns really clean. She said to use May 3, 2008 · Search titles only By: Search Advanced search… Oct 28, 2019 · Good point but at 69 yo a 12 year prostate cancer survivor I don’t worry anymore about anything. I run my mix with non ethanol 93 octane @ 32:1. 99 $59. Also. Joined Jun 4, 2008 Messages 5,533 Jan 8, 2009 · As I said yesterday I bought several saws. Mar 15, 2009 · OKYMOTOR 53 Inch Limb Chain Saw,High Reach Tree Hand Rope Saw with 68 Sharp Teeth Blades on Both Sides,Folding Rope Chain Saws,High Limb Pocket Chainsaw OKYMOTOR $11. I have used a bunch of other oils also and the only oil that gave me problems was Klotz R50. Is there a reason the R50 would be anybetter than the 50:1 or vise versa I havent seen the 50:1 Klotz mentioned on here yet Spec sheets May 20, 2017 · About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features NFL Sunday Ticket Press Copyright Jun 8, 2009 · After hearing good things about it recently I deceided to switch thinking it would probably be hard to find but to my surprise the first dealer I tried had it and a pretty good stock of pro saws also. So were you one of those bald "Amsoil" guys with the tamborine at the Columbus airport???? Jul 24, 2006 · Last time i bought mine from rockymountain. Oct 28, 2008 · Motorcycles, Boating, Small Engine, Aviation, Powe. Andyshine77 Nov 21, 2008 · LMAO that stuff smells so good. I believe I will use this Bel-Ray H1R. Nov 24, 2011 · I'm used to getting Ultra HP which is 50:1 clear and simple. Just messy. well i just recently bought myself a midlife crisis banshee. 42:1. Mar 28, 2011 · A reliable source informed me Klotz Original Techniplate is the oil used in 50 fuel, or whatever they're calling theses days. 3. 99 Apr 8, 2009 · I've used Super Techniplate for over 20 + years and never had a problem. Klotz Super Techniplate is a pure synthetic oil blended with 20% of there Benol Racing Caster Oil. Super Techniplate? The R50 is full synthetic and gives nearly the same protection as castor. Jun 3, 2013 · I've been testing a few different oils. I really like that erl. 38 / Foot) Has Klotz R50 fallen out of the discussion of top saw mix oil? Reply. Jun 24, 2014 · Klotz R50. Sold individually. My father has claimed the smallest one of the bunch, Remington Mighty Mite Bantam. I do run a BR7ES plug which is a step hotter, I've this plug from slow technical riding to wide open sand wash without any problems. 00 x 7. because of 1. Running the fuel they had in them last fall, they fired right up and ran perfectly. Nov 24, 2012 · ZELARMAN Chainsaw Chaps Apron Wrap 8-layer for Men/Women Loggers Forest Workers Protective Chain Saw Pants Adjustable QUALITY GARDEN & HAND TOOLS $238. I since have switched because after talking with a Klotz technician a few weeks ago the R50 Techniplate has too high of a burn temp. 5 gallons lasts everything else a Mar 31, 2011 · 32:1 Klotz R50 or Mobil MX2T in all 2-strokes I own. 35 two hour races and probably about 130 hours of hard practice riding that season. I've found Klotz will do the same thing I think it was formulated for ally Jan 19, 2009 · I've beem running Klotz R50 for the past 15 years in my MX bikes, and my shifter kart, not a single oil related failure, I even attribute Klotz to saving and engine from extensive damage when I blew a head gasket and kept driving my bike ! Jun 12, 2008 · 1. My plan is to run them in one chainsaw to Dec 12, 2010 · Chainsaw . I just recommend it for insurance. Jan 9, 2010 · Well - I just got home from my local Stihl dealer!! And. Weaver Arborist Bungee Chain Saw Strap Amazon. 99 Feb 10, 2010 · Klotz is among the best you can buy and at a good price. 22 x 4. Nov 26, 2011 · tested: klotz r-50 Techniplate, This oil is all synthetic, and has very small molecules, And it is a thick oil, Maximum R. Red Armor (formlation cheapened, ester dropped from SDS, yet price remained, obviousl profit driven over quality) Mar 27, 2009 · So which of the Amsoil products is best for a chainsaw? I've been a dealer and a preferred customer before just to get the discount on my auto engine oil, but never used their 2-smoke oil. flashpoint - way higher (chainsaw type: 250 to 425F) vs. 4. 60 x 12. Stihl HP Ultra (you can find out why). I'm pretty sure that the Super Techniplate has 20% of Klotz Beanol in it - hence the castor. I actually have a piston out of a 346 that was run about half its life on PB and it looks great. I've ran numerous oils over the years from oem to the bike oils. Bad part about ST is the fact it's a moisture magnet, although many have ran it without issue. $37. WELCOME!! I'll just add that I've R50 works best in high RPM, high load, high heat applications. There really is nothing like racing gas and castor but even the best degummed castors will carbon up the rings within a few tanks. Klotz for sure, bossman is a huge moto nut ZELARMAN Chainsaw Chaps Apron Wrap 8-layer for Men/Women Loggers Forest Workers Protective Chain Saw Pants Adjustable QUALITY GARDEN & HAND TOOLS -18% $48. The power valves were nice and clean too. I don Jul 17, 2006 · ZELARMAN Chainsaw Chaps Apron Wrap 8-layer for Men/Women Loggers Forest Workers Protective Chain Saw Pants Adjustable QUALITY GARDEN & HAND TOOLS -10% $305. Is this normal? If not, is this the result of running R50? Is it the result of running 32:1? What do the masses think. P. Dyno and race track-tested. Now jetted much closer trying castor 927 just to try it. Jul 6, 2006 · Hiya, I'm posting to find out what the recommended mix(Two Stroke mix ratio) for a Husqvarna 381 Chainsaw is. I went with Klotz since the local bike shop stocks it. before break down of the oil viscosity and film strength was 15,579, even though the oil broke down, my test unit stayed at 116f, wierd, this is the first time my unit did this, pour point tested at -14f, this oil In this situation you will also be running Klotz R50 as your premix at 50:1. Jun 4, 2012 · ZELARMAN Chainsaw Chaps Apron Wrap 8-layer for Men/Women Loggers Forest Workers Protective Chain Saw Pants Adjustable QUALITY GARDEN & HAND TOOLS $21. Zero lubrication issue. I've run the Super numerous times as well. Most of my mixed gas gets run in my dirtbike. Klotz R50 = 550F 2. Had slight carbon build up ontop of piston. Use what works for you, myself, I only use a quality synthetic oil, Used Mobil1 racing2T until they discontinued it in '07, I now use Klotz R50. Really Mar 25, 2010 · I have a yamaha banshee, I was running klotz supertechniplate, But I got a free bottle of amsoil dominator and I mixed it at the same 32:1 ratio, It seems to have alittle more kick in HP using it, The base oils themselfs the amsoil seems thinner than the klotz, The klotz is said to be good at protection since it conatins 20% castor bean oil 80% Jun 28, 2014 · Thats one thing I took away from the racing days. I do recommend 40:1 on a ported saw, but I doubt it's really necessary. General Dirt Bike Discussion; Activity. com-7%. Mar 18, 2008 · Klotz R50 mixed with LL100 AV Gas, haven't so much as changed a sparkplug in 13 years in my string trimmer, blower or hedge trimmers, all are Husqvarna models. Klotz Benol = 550F 3. He will be using Stihl Ultra (white bottle). i used my last bottle yesterday. lol Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk . My plan is to run them in one chainsaw to In this situation you will also be running Klotz R50 as your premix at 50:1. Up until a week ago I thought it was the average 50:1 ratio but after blowing the piston and $200 later I found out that the wrong mix(50:1) was the reason it blew up. Im currently running Amsoil Saber at 50:1. Jan 17, 2009 · Klotz R50 is a good all around oil. I quit using Klotz R50, not rated. 00 EGO Power+ EP7500 31-Inch Extension Pole Attachment for Power Head PH1400 and Saw PSA1000 Amazon. Oct 9, 2009 · RE: Klotz oil and carbon deposits: Klotz main market is the ultra-performance racing two-strokes. I've been told that it provides greater ring seal and therefore makes more power. Klotz never claimed ST to be a storage oil. Motul 800 or Klotz R50 Reply reply Epicfacecanada • • Kids bikes and mine, hell, even the chainsaw gets it. Guy got it from his pops who couldn’t pull it over. Mix it thinner or go to another oil. and 2. I tried running APV ,Amsoil and klotz and I have to say I find Klotz to be the best. I'm not high enough on that chart to dictate 32:1. My friend in Northern PA, runs a motorycle repair shop; and has seen with his own eyes some oils separating. Klotz will not rust up your motorbut a lack of storage oil will. Search titles only By: Search Advanced search… Sep 28, 2009 · Which Klotz oil do you use? By RippinShee September 28, 2009 in Banshee Repairs and Mods. Benol is used for 2 stroke racing karts. Oct 30, 2009 · IMHO, 50:1 is plenty of oil for 99% of applications. So my local Stihl dealer lives near an airport and he gets AV gas there for his saws. This racing oil stuff seems to be more open to interpretation. Jan 23, 2007 · There are so many posts on chainsaw gas-oil to search this question on the AS Forum in less than several hours of reading, so I will post this to the chainsaw forum: I am looking for a good 2-stroke oil for our 2-stroke tools here. Maybe I should use it for racing? Edited March 2, 2013 by Gonzo 1971 12. I have used it for 2 years now a haven't had an issue. com. He's been selling it for 14 years, particularly in the MX and sled arenas. I bought that because it is in stock alot of times when the Super is perpetually on back order. The R50 leaves just a slight film. Jan 18, 2016 · In a chainsaw used for work the main thing is to use a fuel that doesn't have ethanol in it. Ran 1 set of crank bearings, and 3 pistons. I purchased a quart of Mobil Racing 2T yesterday and mixed it 48:1 (according to a Bailey's Ratio-Rite) anyway this Mobil doesn't dye the fuel very well Sep 18, 2007 · BeNol is a castor based oil, which is awesome as far as protection, but castor based oils leave a lot of carbon build up compared to synthetic based oils. Clean burn technology for low smoke and will help prevent plug fouling Provides superior film strength of castor oil with clean burning characteristics of Klotz Synthetic Lubricants Identifiable Klotz red colorSmells like Klotz Improves throttle response Pre-mix only- not intended for oil injection SPECIFICATIONSLUBRICANT TYPE: 80% Full Synthetic, 20% BeNol Castor OilRECOMMENDED For over 60 years, racers and performance enthusiasts around the world have relied on Klotz full synthetic oil to grab the checkered flag. I've had bad luck with Bel-Ray 2 stroke oils,but I do like their fork fluid and gearbox oils. 100LL is aviation gas that is 100 octane and ethanol free! It also will store up to a year no problem. Thread starter KenJax Tree; Start date Do i need to retune if i switch from Amsoil Saber @40:1 to Klotz R50 or Belray H1R @32:1? Nov 24, 2011 · I didn't pull the 660 down before I sold it but it had about 5 gallons with klotz ran through it and I didn't see any more build up on the top of the piston than any of the saws ran with ultra. Honda of Florence 6507 Dixie Hwy Florence KY 41042 Phone: (859) 371-1212 Fax: (859) 282-4111. Original and super mix with any fuels which is good if you buy ethanol pump gas. They carry Klotz SuperTechniPlate, Yamaha lube, Bel-Ray and Maxima SuperM. Benol has really good film strength but it is a caster oil and it does not burn as clean as the others. It will mix with Oct 8, 2009 · Klotz 50:1 or R50 I was on the klotzlube site and seen they have a oil they call 50:1 I've compared the spec sheets with the R-50 but dont really know what I'm comparing. Thread When I mix Sunoco race gas with Klotz R50 @ 50:1 for my trimmer, blower, cultivator it goes from green to yellow. Switching oil. Keep high-output two-stroke machines running smoothly with Klotz R50 Techni-Plate Pre-Mix Oil. 99 ($0. viscosity - thicker, make that way thicker. Klotz r50, Benol or Maxima 927 are all good oils. The new cylinder compression rose to 135 psi ! This Dec 17, 2008 · I'm running Klotz R50. Klotz R50 and Super Techniplate, and a couple random others. Nov 20, 2018 · Weaver Arborist Bungee Chain Saw Strap Amazon. 1K views 7 replies 7 participants last post by TXLiquid Jan 27, 2016 Jun 4, 2008 · I've since switched to Klotz R50 at 40:1 which is a full synthetic. These guys tear their engines down and re-ring really often. Scoob PR Founding Father. Which Klotz oil meets these needs? Jan 29, 2010 · I found this interesting article regarding castor oil written by a chemist at Conoco, seems to support the great success of oils like Maxima 927 and Klotz supertechniplate and castrol A727(castor plus esters). X xxch4osxx R-50 oil review after 60hrs of use Apr 29, 2007 · ive switched to mixing my gas to 32:1 since ive been reading alot about premix ratios and engine wear. R50 is probably ultimate protection. 99 $15. Klotz makes a castor synthetic blend that's almost the same. Keathley 6/4/81 - 3/27/22 Loving father, husband, brother, friend and firewood hoarder Rest in peace, Dexterday Jan 30, 2007 · Klotz R-50 is a lubricant developed exclusively for high-RPM, two-stroke racing engines with power valves, and has been continually refined through Klotz’s six decades of experience in motorsports. Give me a reason why you think what you do. Buy a quart of each and see what you prefer. K2 and R50 are both full Ester syn oils. R50 burns clean as any Amsoil and even their pure castor burns pretty clean. I don't use it because I think it's needed, but because I already have it. 210 lbs compression on 98 octane is kinda pushing it. Is it any good? Just curious. Just Premium unleaded gasoline and Klotz R50 at 40:1. ; intended for racing engines ONLY. The best of both worlds. I run chainsaw Mixing five different 2 cycle oils in 100LL Avgas. Mar 31, 2009 · I'd like to welcome our newest sponsor, Klotzlubemn. Motul 800 = 485F 4. I don't believe that the Klotz was synthetic, but the Torco was. It's half racing synthetic 2-stroke oil and the other half is castor oil - the racing 2-stroke oil is Klotz and the castor oil is Klotz Beanol. Oct 8, 2009 · I run R50 myself. I run the R50 mainly because I'm just burning gasoline (obviously) and not methanol or alcohol. Unless you want your piston turning Carmel colored after hard work. that oil is recommended to mix at 50:1 but I run it at 32:1 just to be on the safe side. The clean-burning, low ash formula helps prevent plug fouling and cuts down on smokey emissions. Headache, nausea. Honda HP2, Maxima K2 and Super M, Klotz R50. Dec 11, 2020 · Everyone seems happy with Klotz, so I thot I'd give it a shot. Maxima 927 - Castor and ester , No solvent. I ran R50 for two years without any real issues, it's great stuff. Nov 25, 2007 · I ran R50 exclusively at 40:1 in my harescramble bike in 2009. Question about JASO ratings? Thread starter Both Klotz are FD rated but the R50 burns cleaner Sent from my Autotune Carb Nov 8, 2006 · The plug is burning right where I like to see them. Note: Recommended Go to Chainsaw r/Chainsaw. To contradict that though, I actually run 32:1 with Klotz R50. at temps *30F and lower. It much better IMO than Stihl Orange bottle. Not sure what else I could want or expect, really. $7. Really Mar 31, 2011 · 32:1 Klotz R50 or Mobil MX2T in all 2-strokes I own. Motul 800 and Klotz R50 come to mind, great products, but saws have a hard time getting hot enough to burn them correctly IMHO, good for milling though. 5 out of 5 stars (Klotz r50 oil FWIW). Klotz R50 Techni-Plate Pre-Mix Oil protects rotating parts, reduces wear and leaves behind less residual carbon than competing pre-mix oils. It also depends on how the flashpoint was obtained, open cup vs closed cup. 00 Inches Klotz KL-105; R50 Racing Oil- Gallon: 8. He did say that 10K-12K RPMs is suffient to properly burn R50. Carbon build-up isn't a problem if your engine is rebuilt every 12 hrs. For what it's worth I use Stihl Ultra with 1/2 ounce of Klotz R50 Super Techniplate (for it's 525 flash point) mixed with Marine grade non-ethanol, yellow in color, 89 octane fuel. Sep 20, 2007 · I have run Klotz R50 and a Torco synthetic with good results. Stays mixed. I've been away from 2 strokes for 10 years and just got my 97 RM250 running the other day, went to get some Klotz and almost fell over at the price of a pint at our local bike shop!! Buy $100 in Klotz Chainsaw Oil and save $10 Automatically! (Not Valid with any other Discounts) SPECIFICATIONS Recommended for power valve engines Identifiable Klotz red color and racy scent Improves throttle response Extreme film strength protects engine parts from metal-to-metal contact Clean burn technology for lo Jan 5, 2016 · Super is castor and R50 won’t burn unless milling. It's synthetically-based so it should burn cleanly if your bike is jetted in the ballpark. This oil protects rotating parts, reduces wear, and minimizes residual carbon buildup. I run Klotz BeNol because it offers superior protection, but can be extremely dirty if the carb is jetted excessively rich. Right now I'm trying out K2 and so far so good. Stihl Ultra Users. Both R50 and Super TechniPlate have a unique smell, but out of two, Super TechniPlate will probably be closer to what your dad ran in the 70's. API S. Since 1995 I haven't used anything but Yamalube 2-R or the Klotz bean oil Mar 1, 2013 · Klotz R50 40:1 Used it for years. The newer ester oils now contain better rust inhibitors, so it's not much of an issue anymore, however I still wouldn't recommend using an ester oil as a long term storage lubricant. Straight Benol does. I run premium in all my two strokes, but that's because premium is the only non ethanol fuel available. Recommended for power valve engines Identifiable Klotz red color and racy scent Improves throttle response Extreme film strength protects engine parts from metal-to-metal contact Clean burn technology for low smoke and help prevents plug fouling High-temperature stability reduces power valve deposits Pre-mix only-not intended for oil injection SPECIFICATIONSLUBRICANT TYPE: 100% Full Sep 30, 2014 · The karts ran 100% methanol which is a very harsh fuel and klotz was one of the few oils that mixed well with it. Klotz R-50 TechniPlate Two-Stroke Pre-Mix Oil. ST has no separation issues. Charcoal on the intake side, light tan on the exhaust side. These are the requirements I need to meet. Thought about running Klotz original, but it's not the best storage lube and most of my saws spend time sitting. They all take 50:1 mix, except the Jun 17, 2010 · Motul 800 2T, Silkolene pro 2sx, and Klotz R50 are all just as good. Nov 8, 2006 · Most of you know that I run Klotz R50 at 32:1. Husqvarna 525318901 Chain Saw Maintenance Kit For Models 435 and 440. I say Jun 6, 2008 · Did you check that link in the post above? This is coming from a guy who makes his living runnin' a chainsaw. Jun 27, 2008 · I started racing motocross in 1985 until the early 90's then I started racing GNCC's and hare scrambles. I've also run Maxima Castor 927. I contribute the cleaning to the Klotz portion of the mix. I got a free pint of Klotz and was gonna try it. She said ok to use at 50:1 in chainsaw/string trimmer, but not to push it to that in dirtbike. What makes Stihl's new Ultimate, or Mobil's 2t any better then Echo's cheep stuff? There is nothing at all wrong with powerblend. I got a $30 bottle of Ipone. 7878. Worked great burned clean but the smell literally made me sick. 20” bar and a full comp chain. I use Benol in everything, banshees,chainsaw,weed eater,my Oct 14, 2014 · Jump to content. The original is different from the R50 and super techniplate. A. :cheers: Apr 22, 2010 · Mix was Amsoil/Klotz R50 Techniplate. Other than that the compression ratios are so low it really doesn't matter what the octane number is. I believe Klotz R50, Maxima K2, Motul 800 and Silkolean pro 2 sx are all group V ester synthetics. If the oil isn't burnt, it has to go somewhere, and carbon on the piston crown is the result. r/Chainsaw Tree service guy here, we have been running the klotz r50 or something like that. I went to the local cycle shop and found a whole bunch of different motocross pre-mix oils to choose from. 50 Arborists' Certification Study Guide, 4th Edition Ye Old Book Shop Mar 14, 2010 · The Klotz oil you are talking about is Klotz R50 (R50 means 50% Racing). Jul 21, 2004 · ZELARMAN Chainsaw Chaps Apron Wrap 8-layer for Men/Women Loggers Forest Workers Protective Chain Saw Pants Adjustable ZM DIRECT $69. Search. Someone said do not run Klotz but I didnt know if it was just there choice or if it was like something that shouldnt be done. I've got a buddie that runs the aromatic Klotz in his weed wacker, chainsaw, 250R, and any 2-stroke he gets his I have been using Klotz Super tech plate, but have been told it is dirty I have also tried Amsoil Dominator and seems good at 40:1 I am also using Amsoil quick shot in all my gas maybe this will help with the Super techplate I will know soon as just did a port and rebuild on a 4218 and will watch it closely. Think I posted all I had from Tech in your last oil thread. My questions are this. I know Klotz R50 does, but do I love the smell of it! I recently went back to my local Stihl/Echo dealer and picked up a 6 pack of Red Armor. I just want the right mix for a chainsaw (muff modded is all I've done, yet). Belray H1R - Pure Ester, No Solvent. I do understand and agree with the non-ethanol benefits of running AV Synthetic 2 stroke oil There have been occasions where certain synthetic oils have seettled in our Motocross bikes. 6175 Harrison Ave. Clean Burn™ technology reduces carbon residue and build-up. Said I was ok at 40:1 and if I smoked (which I do) then to tinker with my jetting. for my application and I now use Stihl Ultra with 1/2 ounce of R50 Techniplate for a ratio of 41:1. Klotz Super Techniplate, R50, SuperTech, Poulan and AmsOil Saber. Lawn Mower and Small Engine Aug 27, 2003 · I also use it at 50:1 in my chainsaw (Stihl 044) Just hung up with Jenny at Klotz technical help. But was never jetted great. Klotz has always been a solid performer. Nov 11, 2010 · After having to install new fuel lines in my Husky 371 3 times in 3 years because the tygon line shrinks and the mix leaks out of the tank I switched to 110 leaded because it is the only fuel around here that doesn't have governmenthanol. Caster oil is a dirty burning oil, and it smokes. I do pair it with 100LL as well. R50 is going to be like the bel ray you use to run. 21 OREGON 295397 Type C (All Round Yukon Chainsaw Protective Trouser, Black, Small Express Shipping ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ May 12, 2010 · SaidiCo 46" Bungee Chain Saw Strap W/ 2" Ring & 225-4-1/4" Long Snap GoldenwestLawnmowers. Our formulation includes surface-active anti-wear chemistry to protect against bearing and piston ring wear, and a blend of dispersants to Jan 17, 2016 · Klotz R50 as chainsaw mix ? Jump to Latest 3. 79 UKCOCO Replace Your Chain Brake Band Kit for Hus445e 450 450e Chainsaws Tensioner Spreader Quick Maintenance keleonto Aug 3, 2013 · Ive run the R50 for years, it burns clean and when tearing down the top end there isnt the goo that others have left. Apr 13, 2019 · One thing is pretty darn clear, with the appropriate oil and tuning, more oil is certainly not harmful. I did run all but 1 gallon at 43:1. Although some of the thicker oils don't like the combust as well at richer mixtures. The oils I prefer in no particular order. From what I can find these are the make ups of those oils Klotz R50 - No info, The odd thing is they call for a pour point of -10F ? Motul 800 - Pure Ester, No Solvent. The ultimate in 100% synthetic lubrication. The stuff is terrific, and man oh man does it ever smell good. All Activity; TT Picks; Podium; Search; More . Shop Cycle Gear for our 30-day best price guarantee & 90-day hassle free returns. 00 x 5. Gonna put a skip chain on it and let’r rip. Piston was nice and clean very little carbon in powervalve. No Stabil, no nothing. In stock saws 40:1 is great in stock saws, and in ported saws 40:1 or 32:1 is fine. Any ideas where this mix should be on Sep 26, 2012 · Castor oil will do that. I ride trails and have never fouled a plug yet even when lugging my 250 all day long. 99. Stay away from R50 and alcohol in gas. Bel Ray H1R = 435F 6. By comparison my chainsaw, weed whip, and lawn mower hardly use anything. I run Klotz R50 full synthetic premix in my KX500, and that oil is AWESOME stuff, every time I swap a top end, my power valves look almost like new. As his username would suggest, he is a Klotz oil dealer. Mar 30, 2022 · 1. Identifiable Klotz RedSmells like Klotz. Share Sep 2, 2020 · alright so for years the only 2 stroke machines ive had have been my saws and weed eater. I used to be all about the klotz R50 and benol, but have switched to belray MC1. 50/50. Some offer out standing film strength but burn a little dirty AKA Klotz R50, others seem have both film strength and burn clean. Maxima Castor 927 = 420F Post off a Chainsaw Group. Me, I plunk a fat finger in Klotz R50 and lube lightly on a well cleaned p/c with particular attention to the bearings and pin. For me with price being the factor there are two options for VP race gas we got the pail and that can be any flavor you would like with $20 a gallon being pretty standard. No or ultra low smoke clean burn. Castor retains better film strength as said, just made sense to try the Klotz stuff as recommended by my dealer. Maybe I'll stick with mostly chainsaw oil to make my 42:1 then add a little Klotz on top. Jul 16, 2008 · I run Amsoil in the injected sleds, Klotz in the bikes. 927 is a castor syn blend, similar to Klotz Super Techniplate. Developed for professional use in high-RPM, 2-stroke racing engines. Jul 25, 2008 · This obviously caused internal corrosion problems. And please don't just blurt out, oh you're running it too rich. For the 25 years Oct 12, 2009 · Klotz R50 is a 100% synthe bansheesandrider. Whether it gets to the rings from the piston skirt/cylinder lube or your finger, it's still getting there. He is in Florida right now, so I can't contact him on which oil it Oct 24, 2024 · Husqvarna 525318901 Chain Saw Maintenance Kit For Models 435 and 440 OMPLLC-19%. Aug 20, 2021 · Red Makita 50:1 2-stroke oil mixed @ 32:1 to 40:1 in my saws. Like Mike said if you're milling some oils will get hot enough to burn off. But is a really great protecting oil. I have a box full of it. Putoline RS959 (do not use anymore because the smell is disgustingly sweet). My favorites so far. Nov 24, 2011 · synthetic motorcycle/racing oils are different in a couple of ways than synthetic 'chainsaw' oils. 00, EXCLUDES HAZARDOUS MATERIALS & FUEL Feb 26, 2010 · The R50 which I'm currently using is really great, burns very clean, no spooge with 32:mix. Jul 29, 2010 · I switched to R50 about 15 years ago and have had zero problems since- no carbon buildup, no cranks going bad and my current topend has 7 years and has only lost 10 psi on the compression gauge. Liking much less build up jetted well. Klotz Super TechniPlate is a high-performance lubricant designed specifically for two-stroke racing engines that combines the benefits of Klotz Original TechniPlate with Klotz BeNOL castor lubricant, creating a mixture that provides both enhanced film strength and a clean burning to keep your engine running at max capacity even under high temperatures and RPMs. Engines run great, are well oiled, and are clean (enough) if you look in at the piston. (moto/race oil 450 to 550F) retuning will be necessary. Improves throttle response and overall engine performance TechniPlate® peak film strength and anti-scuff protection High load carrying capacity for reduced ring and bearing wear Clean burn technology eliminates carbon and residue build-up Anti-oxidation protection against rust and corrosion Ashless, No-Smoke formula provides cleaner exhaust Identifiable Klotz red color and racy scent Tested Apr 29, 2023 · Way back when, Klotz was the oil for high performance 2 stroke motors, I used it in my Kawasaki H1 750 triple (another story for another time) but. and now i plan to switch to synthetic. StaBil just because. 574. lvci utzqr ubch aeexhg azwvm vpraaxk ohb ofdrp nxi vzea